August 4, 2015

What's Going On With the Milans? Part II

In case you missed my first post about the initial breakdown, check it out HERE.

Since my last post, things have been dormant in regards to the whole situation with the Milans. Everyone kept asking for an update or at least an explanation. Let me say this: When you open up your life and put it on display (even partially) for social media, your audience starts to feel like a part of the family. It's inevitable, especially with Youtube personalities. Just because the Milans have cut ties with each other means nothing to us, we weren't there. We're still sitting at the table wondering what happened? I digress. 

During these past couple weeks of dormancy, there were a couple shady posts on Stahr's Instagram, but definitely nothing noteworthy....until today. This evening, the walls came down and almost everything we were curious about came out into the light. 

Ex-Milan, Ian better known as King shared a video with the masses via Youtube addressing the burning question: What happened to the Milans? In the 23-minute long video (see it HERE), King gives us some background and insight into the Milan lifestyle, that ended up costing more than what he bargained for. He talks about how he and Stahr met, what went on during his time in the house, and why they ended up departing. I won't mention exactly what King said, it's in the video and pretty self explanatory. But in a nut shell, according to King, ALLEGEDLY Stahr was mentally, verbally, and sexually abusive. King  alleges that the reason why they were kicked out is simply because they refused to accept his sexual advances any longer. 

Although these are all allegations that are unconfirmed, the video was downright heartbreaking. There are several similar rumors across the web about Stahr ALLEGEDLY sexually abusing the younger Milans and also about his ALLEGED faulty business practices (shoutout to LipstickAlley). As I said in my first post, there are three sides to every story: my side, your side, and the truth. From the video I believed King. I could see the pain in his eyes and I could hear the pain in his voice. He has classic signs of someone who was abused: lying to protect them, not telling anyone, the feeling of obligation, the fear of retaliation/loss of love, etc. Those are things and feelings that you can't really fake. My opinion is that King is telling the truth but NO ONE knows the real truth, we will never know.

My truly heart breaks for King and Tahj especially. You guys know I love Tahj! Just imagining what possibly went on in the house makes my stomach turn. The worst part is that they are SO young. 

Small tangent: Many young LGBTQ folks are forced into bad situations because of their parents' refusal to accept their orientation or identification. King admitted that he was a rebellious child who was very troubled. Just watching the video made me even more passionate to become a counselor specifically for LGBTQ youth. Anyway, enough about me...

Stahr sorta clapped back on his Instagram and said he will be posting a response to King's video on tomorrow (8/5/15). I really wish he would've posted it tonight, so he won't change his mind about it. I really want to hear his side of the story. When/If he posts the video tomorrow, I'll come back with a full update/review. Check back here tomorrow night!

UPDATE [8/6/15 - 6:30 PM]



Ok so Stahr actually posted the response video earlier today. It has since been deleted and I can't say that I didn't see that coming. I was at work when he posted it but thank GAWD I was able to take a break and watch it before it was pulled. I even have a screenshot from the intro of the video, which is above. The video was addressed to: Tahj, King, Dope Simplicity, and Face God. In case you didn't know, Face God is another male makeup artist on Youtube. Since the video disappeared, I'll give you guys a synopsis of what was said. A good memory is such a blessing.

The video started out with a couple statements, one of which I captured. He acknowledged the sexual abuse and denied the accusation. He started out talking about Tahj and how he was very hard on Tahj because in Tahj he saw himself. He thought Tahj would be the next Stahr Milan and because he saw so much of himself in Tahj, he was super critical and protective of him. Stahr said that when Tahj would mess up he would be very upset with him and criticize him. He believes this is why Tahj stopped coming to him and being open with him. To me, it was like a strict parent situation. Usually people with strict, overbearing parents hide things from them because they're not approachable. Even when you try to approach a strict parent with some honesty, they get angry, so it makes better sense to just tell them what they want to hear instead of the truth. He apologized to Tahj because he said maybe if he weren't so strict, maybe there would have been more open and honest communication.

Next he addressed his relationship with King. He also said that he say himself in King because they are just alike. They have the same personality, attitude, and make-up savvy. He considered King to be his first child because he really took care of him. According to Stahr, the demise of their relationship started over some un-named guy. Stahr said that King did something that upset him and it all relates to this unknown guy. He said their communication was lacking because King thought Stahr turned against him because of the drama with this guy. Stahr said he would never turn against King for anyone, but they never really talked it out. He apologized to King for what was not said and for not talking to him one on one.

Lastly, he talked about Dope Simplicity and Face God. This part is probably going to be confusing, because it was confusing in the video. At this point of the video, Stahr became really irritated. He said the situation still bothers him even though he's past it. Allegedly, Face God posted something on his Instagram about 'people talking about him'. He saved a snap of the post and sent Face God a text asking if the post about him. Face God brushed him off at first, but later confirmed that the post was about him because he heard that Stahr had been 'talking about him'. Stahr said that he and Face God weren't really friends and the only link they had between each other was with Dope Simplicity since he and Face God work at the same salon.

So, Stahr asked Tahj and King if Dope Simplicity had been talking about him and both of them said yes. Dope Simplicity got word about Stahr feeling some kind of way about the alleged gossip (most likely from Tahj) and said he was going to talk to him about it, but if Stahr got out of line, he would 'whoop his ass'. Dope denied that he ever told Face God anything.A little while later (timeline isn't clear), Dope Simplicity and Red (Stahr's ex-boyfriend) were on the phone together. While they were on the phone, Stahr asked Red to put him on speakerphone. He heard Dope Simplicity vehemently denying that he told Face God that he was being talked about and he also said again that he would talk to Stahr as long as he didn't get out of hand. The talk never came, but Stahr cut ties with Face God and Dope Simplicity. Stahr also talked about someone named Micah who commented on the Instagram post by Face God saying "you knew", and this really made Stahr mad.

Whew! Drama!

Now for my opinion of ALL this! I honestly think Stahr deleted the video because he realized he was wrong and that the video was more incriminating than not. He kept mentioning that he was being an 'adult' about everything yet he also acknowledges that he has a bad temper and pretty much stopped talking to Tahj and King. I'm not sure what his definition of an adult is, but the best thing to do is to talk things out instead of just ignoring each other. Tahj and King mentioned that Stahr wouldn't even talk to them, and Stahr himself confirmed this. In regards to the Dope Simplicity thing, I honestly don't see why Stahr was so mad. It's all just so petty. Stahr is always talking about how he doesn't care what people think about him, but he screen-snapped Face God's post and asked him if he was referring to him in the post. That seems like a person that cares, in my opinion. I'm not here to antagonize Stahr AT ALL, I'm just stating my opinion. I really liked that Stahr apologized for his shortcomings. I know hindsight is always much better, but I don't see why he didn't think of communicating with the guys in the moment. He knows Tahj and King better than any of us, so I don't know, I just don't really get it. Even though we have a lot more information than we had before, it's still all quite confusing. I still felt more legitimacy in the video by King. There were lots of holes in Stahr's story which made it confusing, especially in regards to Dope Simplicity, he seemed to be reaching for something that wasn't there.

According to him, this was his last time speaking on the issue, because he's behind it and just over it. He also said that the rape allegations came because King wants to be famous and he's just trying to garner attention. I know who I believe, but no one knows the real truth. I just don't think multiple people would tell the same lie, but hey, it is what it is.

So now that we have a good chunk of the story, from two different perspectives, how are you guys feeling about everything? Who do you believe and why? Are you over it or would you like more tea?

23 comments:

  1. I saw the video too. My jaw dropped. King said that Tahj will be releasing a tell-all video today at 6pm as well so I cannot wait for that. Stahr can deny this all he wants, but King isn't the only person who has spoke on Stahr having sex with him & Tahj. Paris Milan (an ex milan member) said the same thing too. Even Redd (Stahr's EX) has said the same thing. Even Envy (an ex milan) has too. They all have spoke on Stahr & what he does with King and Tahj. I've seen the screenshots on Lipstick Alley. ALL of those people who've spoken up have lived with Stahr. So that speaks volumes.

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    1. The video that Stahr removed was recovered and uploaded back to Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjvZeBi8Nms

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  2. Stahr posted a youtube response. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVsF-KlL3Tc

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  3. Stahr is a fraud and rapist....he posted a vid then deleted it because he know he's guilty! I love King and Tahj and I could tell by how they would act in past vids with Stahr that something wasn't right smh....Stahr preyed on them because they were young and depended on him....its sad to imagine what they went through and went along with because they didn't have anybody to turn to especially Tahj....I wonder what Tahj's family is saying now since they kicked him out for being gay....now see what ended up happening to him smh sad

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    1. Im not playing sides here but if youtube was your job would you leave a video up like that. I fucking wouldn't thats bad for your business. Personally i think if stahr so called raped them why they didn't go to the police i feel like they are trying to seek attention from this whole situation. Plus anybody can mak e a video and cry just saying. Maybe they were raped but not by stahr and their using that experience to get everyone's pity

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    2. "why they didn't go to the police". They didn't go to the police for the same reason millions of other rape victims don't go to the police. Because of fear, because they are dependent on their abusers, because they are young, because they have no where else to go....the list goes on. Only someone who hasn't been through rape or molestation would say "so then why didn't they tell the police?" Tut

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    3. I'm sorry... You sound crazy!! A black youth.. Going to a white police precinct... Accusing another black man of RAPE.... tell me how you think that would've ended...

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    4. I don't think a lot of people understand the symptoms of rape/sexual abuse. Most victims don't come forward for several reasons. They first of all fear that no one would believe them, especially when it's someone with some kind of prestige. They know they'll face backlash and scrutiny because people always trust a person of prestige even when they don't know them personally. Many fear losing their loved one, even if it's wrong they still don't want to lose the person they love, especially if it's family. Another reason is that they fear losing life support (shelter, housing, food, etc.). There are a lot more rape/sexual abuse victims than we'll ever know. Only a small percentage of sexual abuse instances are reported. Most people go through life never telling a soul, taking it to their graves.

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  4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL7KUwc9pLE&feature=youtu.be

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  5. ^^^^Yasssssssss

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  6. I believe King!! Stahr is making too much money to still be bumming rides here and there

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  7. Stahr is a motherfucking rapist and he knows it! Rape doesn't just mean you pull a woman into an alley way and brutally sexually assault her. He was raping them for room and board. I believe everything King and Tahj claim. Why would they lie about something like that? We all know they cant get anything (money) out of it. Stahr was raping and manipulating them to be his little minions, and they got sick of it. Stahr is trying to claim that they want attention and fame from this....as if Stahr is fucking famous lmfao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stahr deleted all of his posts on IG, so now something is going on. I took a long ass nap and I'm not sure what happened. Tahj's video is taking forever to upload, so it's going to be another hour or so by time it drops. I'm waiting for it.

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    1. The video post and now it's gone. I seriously think the youngest is scared and King want Starh to pay for what he done. This is far from gossip you have a parent that release her son to a predator and Starh fuel those young men lives up. There are a whole lot of adults that need to be ashame of themselves. And if King can make some money off the truth so be it.

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  8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL7KUwc9pLE THIS IS THE ORIGINAL VIDEO THAT HE DELETED. SOMEONE COPIED IT AND UPLOADED IT. I HOPE THE PERSON WHO UPLOADED IT, HAS A BACK UP COPY AS WELL. I FEEL THAT STAHR IS GOING TO COME FOR THE PERSON AND TRY TO GET THIS TAKEN DOWN.

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    1. i downloaded it so its covered =)

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  9. Tahj posted a response today on the trilogy YouTube account Check it out.

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  10. I was looking at some of the tea time videos and came across a discussion as it relates to cheating on boyfriends and using contraception/going in raw. Starh says....i believe you can have unprotected sex if you live with the person. Kemoney says....we'll ive see ppl getting cheated on all the time whilst you man off to work and their boyfriend is sleeping with someone in the shower. King....sticks out his tounge and laughs with a side eye....starh side eyes king and says my man ain't sleeping with nobody else. Wth????? Seems like happenstance now that rape alligations are out

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  11. Stahr Milan/Travis William is very delusional and dumb as fuck and believes people are even stupider than he is.He is so ready to run to the police,take people to court.After his ramblings about nothing,I posted on his instagram that before he brings this to court make sure he gets his facts straight.#1 question would be asked by the court is why are all these young men ex.Red,Envy,Paris and more accusing you of all these things?
    His stupid self blocked my ass ��������I cant with man.

    Calling people ugly as if he did not completely try to alternate his looks.Stahr fyi if you're reading this,you cant runaway from your looks 4ever.Your kids will look like you.

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    1. Thats sad y u chasing a man.lol.You're as delusional as Stahr.

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  13. I saw dude video and he said that he had sex with Stahr to get his makeup done and to get a shirt among other things. Thats crazy!. I wonder now that he's "older" would he or is he doing the same things. Not taking any sides, but sometimes you have to second guess these ATL dudes. Its easy to be victimized and even easier to play the victim

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